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0:00 In 2020, we thought that the office was dead and in 2023 people were forced to go back to the office and sometimes even 0:11 earlier. And by 2026, now we have a mix of remote work and office work. That's right. 0:22 Today we are going to be talking about different working 0:27 arrangements, different working styles, particularly remote work 0:35 versus office work, which is better. 0:40 So no matter what your job is, where you work, this should be a relevant topic for you in English. 0:48 So many jobs that you might be applying for now, or perhaps jobs that you do have a mixture of remote and office work, or 0:58 sometimes only one or the other. Perhaps some of you are listening to this while at home in your pyjamas, relaxing during 1:09 your work day. Or maybe some of you are listening while you're on your train journey, or you're in your car on the way to work for your daily commute. 1:21 Well, perhaps a mix. Maybe you are going to the office tomorrow, but you're staying at home today and this 1:29 episode is for you. So let's prepare ourselves to learn about and to discuss the debate of remote versus office, 1:40 which is clearly a debate, a question that is not going to disappear or go away anytime soon. 1:50 I'm your host, Oliver, and welcome back to the Easy English Podcast, the best place to practice your English listening skills. Let's have a look at today's key 2:01 vocabulary. And remember, if you're new here or you haven't quite yet subscribed, make sure you're following or subscribed to the Easy English Podcast. 2:13 Let's have a look at our five pieces of key vocabulary that are going to be very important for today's episode. 2:23 Our first word today is the word commute. 2:27 Commute. This is an important word if you go to the office. So the word commute is the 2:36 journey between one's home and your place of work. 2:41 So that journey that you take from home to work and back again, this is your commute, and you can also commute to work. 2:52 So we're using that word as a verb in this case. 2:57 Our second piece of key vocabulary is a phrase that I want to teach you today, and that is the water cooler effect. 3:08 Water cooler effect. And these are spontaneous conversations that happen in an office, which can lead to ideas 3:18 and in some cases, progress. So we call this the water cooler effect. And of course, this comes from 3:26 maybe a more traditional office where the water cooler is where employees would fill up their glasses or bottles of water. 3:36 And usually at those locations, conversations start. 3:41 Our third word for today's episode is A autonomy, autonomy. 3:48 And autonomy is the right or condition to have your own self independence, so being able to make decisions yourself and to 3:58 decide what you want to do and to have maybe more freedom of your decisions. And our next word is a verb, and 4:09 this is to blur. To blur. 4:12 And this means to make something less clear or less distinct, so you can blur the lines between something so it becomes less 4:23 clear. We might say that the lines become blurred or we blur the lines between work and rest when 4:33 we work from home. And our final piece of key vocabulary is social capital. Social capital and social 4:44 capital is the networks of relationships among people who work in a particular society. So going to the office, for 4:54 example, might help you to build social capital with your boss. 4:59 OK, let's take a look at today's main topic. 5:03 Now, if you're listening to this, you may be interested in supporting the Easy English podcast through Patreon. 5:12 We have two tiers on Patreon. The first is where you can support Easy English and get access to all of the main 5:22 podcast episodes with PDF transcripts, vocabulary flash cards and you get ad free higher quality audio as well. 5:34 The second tier is the extra support tier where you get access to bonus episodes of the podcast and content every week. 5:44 But not only that, when you join, you get access to over 60 bonus episodes that are already on the Patreon and this includes 5:55 additional series such as stories and easy English. 6:00 We have news and easy English and and lots of random bonus episodes that I make as well. OK, if you're interested in that 6:10 and you want to support the Easy English podcast, the link is in the description of every episode and you can always find it there. Or you can search easy English 6:20 Podcast, Patreon, and you probably find it on Google too. 6:25 Okay, so in 2026, we don't just talk about the cost of gas, fuel, petrol, whatever you want to call it, or train tickets. 6:38 We talk about the commute tax when we're thinking about this topic of remote versus office and this is probably one of my 6:47 biggest arguments for remote work and that is the hidden cost of in person work. And it can really add up even if 6:56 you're going to the office two or three times per week. 7:01 It's not just the money, it's the time as well. 7:05 You know, we think about the money itself on this commuting tax. If you're driving to work, you're spending money on fuel every day. 7:12 You're also putting stress on your car. 7:16 So you need to maintain the car, you need to replace parts. 7:20 The car ages faster. And if you're taking public transport, you're also paying for that too. 7:28 Especially here in the UK, public transport is quite expensive. It isn't actually that cheap. 7:35 So you could pay for me, for example, to go to the office and back is around £10 per day, so a little bit less like £9.10. 7:47 And if you were to do that three days per week, we're talking, you know, 27 lbs, almost 30 pounds, £27.30 to be exact. 7:58 And on top of that, maybe when I'm in the office, I will buy something to eat and maybe grab a coffee with some of my colleagues. And before you know it, you 8:09 might have spent 50 or 60 lbs per week just on a couple of days in the office, which is kind of crazy when you think 8:18 about it. But money aside and you know, cost from actually travelling to the office and the things around it, we are looking at spending a lot of time too. 8:30 So to travel to the office, for most people it could take an hour per day at least. So even if you spend one hour 8:39 every day, you're thinking about roughly 250 hours per year commuting to the office. That's a massive tax on your 8:51 life itself when you're travelling. 8:54 And I know you can do stuff if you're on the train or you know, maybe in the car and things like that, but still it is a really 9:01 big time waste. So for English learners, I mean, to, to get some kind of an English point into this episode that makes it a very important time. 9:12 If you have to travel to the office, if you have to commute to the office, it's a great time to practice some English learning. If you're driving, you can 9:22 listen to this podcast, you can listen to audiobooks, you can listen to things in English. If you're on the train or public 9:31 transport, you can do that too. Or you can read and do other things like maybe a flip card, apps or ways of practising your English. So you know, despite what I 9:42 said, this commuting can actually be a benefit to force you to practice and learn some English. 9:49 So it really isn't all bad, but for other people it can be the cause of burnout. You can get quite tired 9:58 travelling to the office there and back and on top of your work as well. And it really can be a contributing factor to just feeling like you have no time, 10:09 like you're more stressed, like your time outside of work is too short. It's can kind of be not a great 10:17 feeling for a lot of people. So in my opinion, I think, you know, is office work worth the tax on your time? 10:27 What do you think? The second argument, and probably the biggest counter argument to the office in my 10:35 opinion, is what I would call the water cooler effect versus I guess the deep work effect. So the biggest argument for the office really is the water cooler effect. 10:47 So this is the idea that the best ideas don't always happen on scheduled online Zoom meetings or Google meets. 10:56 They happen when you're maybe chatting, getting a coffee, or just in person where you're having those out of the blue conversations or idea and brainstorming sessions. 11:08 I guess we could call it spontaneous collaboration. 11:11 It's quite a complicated phrase, so it means when you're working together, but maybe it's not as structured or planned. 11:22 But on the other side. So you can tell I'm quite a big proponent or supporter of remote work. 11:29 There is also a lot of distractions in the office. 11:33 There's a lot of noise, there's a lot of people asking questions, talking to each other, and I know you can use headphones, but it is quite unavoidable. 11:44 I noticed when I'm in the office people talk a lot more and that's fine, but for me, I find it quite hard if I'm trying to do do some deep work. And if you're being disturbed or 11:55 people are asking questions, it does take some time to refocus. 12:00 So I can totally see why people prefer to get deep work done at home rather than in the office. When you're at home, you can 12:10 really create that deep work environment a lot easier to be honest than in the office. You can protect your space a lot 12:19 more. OK, so let's take a look at our listener spotlight today. If you're new to the show, this 12:28 is the part of the Easy English Podcast where you answer my questions and I read out some of your answers from last week's question. And then at the end of the 12:39 section, I will ask you a question for next week that I want you to try and answer right after you finish listening to 12:48 the podcast or even right now when you're listening. 12:53 You can pause and answer my question in the comments below. 12:58 So last week I asked questions about translating in English. 13:04 I wanted to know if you translate in your head from your native language to English and to tell me a little bit about 13:12 the experience of that. So how you translate or how you speak English, do you think in the language or do you think in your native language and translate? 13:24 And there were a couple of great comments to this and I want to read them out to you today. I had a comment from Anna and she said, hello, Oliver, I'm Anna. 13:34 I'm from Mexico. I'm learning English and German at the same time. Sometimes when I speak English, 13:42 my mind translates to German. It's very stressful and when I speak English, my mind switches or when I speak German, my mind 13:52 switches to English. Oh my goodness, that does sound very stressful, Anna. I can't imagine because I've never learned more than one language at a time. 14:03 So when I was studying foreign languages, I was never studying multiple different languages at a time. 14:11 So I imagine that can be very confusing for your brain and it almost doesn't know what to translate from or what way to think about it. So thank you so much for your 14:22 comment. That's a really interesting 1 and I hope hope to see you in the comments again in the future. Our second comment that I want 14:29 to read again is from Carlos and Carlos says hello Oliver, I hope you're doing well. I usually try to think directly 14:40 in English and skip my native language, but sometimes it is pretty difficult because I have to focus a lot to do it. 14:51 However, one time I can do it easier without almost without effort. Thank you for your knowledge with us, for sharing your knowledge with us. 15:01 Greetings from Spain. Thank you very much. 15:04 Carlos. That's a wonderful comment. 15:06 And I think you've definitely highlighted that sometimes you can get it easier and sometimes it is harder. 15:13 And I totally agree. Sometimes for me it's it's, you know, especially if I'm tired or maybe you've had a long day or 15:22 any of those factors, it can become so much harder to think directly in English. So I totally get that with a 15:31 second language, it can be very difficult to think directly in it, depending on the time. Okay so for next weeks episode I 15:41 want you to tell me do you remote work or office work and which do you think is better and why? 15:51 So you're going to use some of the arguments maybe you've heard today or your own and I want you to tell me your opinion. 16:00 I really want to hear what you think is remote office better or is remote work better or office working and what do you do? 16:09 Tell me why. OK, back to our episode. 16:13 Remember, I will pick two or three of your comments from this episode and read them out next week. 16:20 I love to read each and every one of your comments. 16:22 So please, please, please answer and I will have great pleasure in reading and choosing a few of those for next week. 16:31 OK, let's have a look at our third place strategy, which is our final little section to talk about today. 16:40 So what do I mean by that third place strategy? 16:43 And this is a change from home versus office as a binary option. So just one or the other in 16:52 2026, a lot of people are choosing a third place strategy. 16:58 And what this means is they are remote working but not at home. 17:03 So they're choosing a third place. 17:06 And perhaps this is a bit of an option which counters some of those negatives that we mentioned earlier. 17:15 So it could be a Co working space, maybe a library or a quiet cafe. So you're still working independently, but you are out of your house, you're out of 17:26 home, and it provides a bit of a structure to your work and it can stop the blurring of the lines between work and home. 17:38 You can also manage the commute a little bit better because you can choose somewhere that's close to where you live or not too far away. And it still gives you that 17:49 autonomy to choose as well. You also can stay out of office politics. You can stay away from a lot of 17:57 the distractions and manage your distractions a little bit more. 18:02 You have that choice of your third place of, you know, deciding where it is, maybe who is there. 18:09 You've got that option and it gives you more control, but you're still missing out on some of that social capital and, and maybe that spontaneous collaboration that we talked 18:20 about where some of those good ideas come from. 18:23 When I say social capital, I think I mentioned it earlier. 18:27 You know, when you're in the office, of course, sometimes you can be a bit more successful because you're talking to, you know, your boss, you're talking to your colleagues, and you can 18:37 develop stronger, closer relationships probably than you can do online. So whether you're working from a 18:45 skyscraper in the middle of the city, maybe in London or another big city around the world, or whether you're at home in Madrid 18:54 or in the countryside somewhere, remember that your growth as an English speaker, as an employee is unique. 19:02 There is no one-size-fits-all. For some people, they'll prefer office working and for some people that prefer remote working and others somewhere in the middle. 19:12 And that's what makes this debate something which I think will not go away. I think it will always be around. So what I would like to do as 19:21 our final section today is, as we've done before in previous episodes, I'm going to ask you some comprehension questions to 19:30 see how well you understood today's topic. 19:34 I'm going to ask the question, I'm going to pause shortly and then give the answer. So the first question, question 19:41 1 is what is the commute tax? What is the commute tax? 19:50 The commute tax is the cost of time, energy and money that you spend every day going to the office. 19:59 Question two, What is the water cooler effect? 20:04 What is the water cooler effects? 20:07 This is the spontaneous unplanned conversations or collaboration is a word I used in the office that can lead to 20:16 better ideas or better social relationships as well between colleagues or your boss. Why can the office? 20:25 This is question three. Why can the office be considered a distraction factory? That's because you can have frequent interruptions, people are chatting to each other, you 20:37 have less control of your space. And finally, question 4, What is a third place? What is this concept of choosing 20:48 a third place? So this is a location that is neither a home or the office. So it's somewhere in the middle 20:59 like a Co working space or a cafe somewhere outside of the house that you choose and you set the boundaries of but isn't the office. So that's it for today. 21:10 Remember to answer the question in the comments below. 21:14 Which do you think is better remote working or office working? And what do you do? 21:20 And tell me why your opinion is the way it is. 21:23 Why do you think that remote or office is better? 21:27 And also, if you want to support the Easy English podcast, you can find the Patreon link in the description below or you can search Easy English Patreon on Google and you'll find the one 21:39 which by English with Oliver and you can subscribe and join our Patreon club. I will see you very see you in the next episode. Thank you very much for 21:49 listening and I will chat to you soon. 21:51 Have a lovely rest of your week goodbye.
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